Steven Bergwijn

Fernandes got in twice.

The Bergwijn one at the end.

But even the Bergwijn one at the end, George, like, why is Savio not taking responsibility there? Like, it's a really bad clearance from Pickford.

It ends up at the feet of Savio, probably about 40 yards out.

And you think...

You know, I think you play Senesi and Van Hecker, for example.

I think those little like decisions just to kind of keep the spine there, like keep some of the kind of real core players.

Similarly, midfield, I don't think I would play Bergwijn and Gallagher together.

Benton has obviously started the season really well.

And then there's Bergwijn and Gray as well.

it's just

yeah

He was making the right decisions.

I mean, you also have to bear in mind that Bergwijn didn't even get off the bench against Forest at the weekend, which kind of shows you now we're actually building now a much more stronger squad in general.

When you look at now players coming off and players coming on, we've have now got for the first time, I think, actual options in general.

But what did you make of that, Ben, in terms of his public criticism of Tel when many fans would probably say it was warranted because again he was frustrated during the game but- Can that only benefit him, or is there a concern that you might lose the player when you are quite public in your criticism? Despite the fact, I think he was right.

You know, why wasn't that the process here with Richarlison? But...

But De Zerbi said, and I think quite pointedly, he said the difference with the situations was that, you know, I could see in training that Bergwijn's attitude was right, that he wanted to kind of, you know, impress, work his way back into the team.

And after 10 days, the agent came to the club and spoke to Johan Langer and said, actually, Bergwijn wants to stay.

That process didn't happen with Richarlison.

You know, he asked to leave and he said, I would prefer to have a Premier League club because I think we've said in this pod before that Richarlison, you know, I think sometimes the factor that is very much overlooked with his situation is that he is very happy in England.

We don't know what sort of state he's in or how long it's going to take for him to get up to speed.

When I see that you have Fernandes on the bench and that you have... coming off for any one of those three that are on there, or Bergwijn behind it.

And the same at the back line, right? You've got Sanessi on the bench.

I feel like we've got talent now.

He could have paid him at right-back and played.

I mean, he was keen for Bergwijn to be playing on the wing before, right? I mean, you can minimise...

You can play a right-back at right-back rather than a midfielder.

You can play someone else out of position and not be playing multiple players out of position.

Look at your bench today.

Senesi, Udogie, Bergwijn, Kudus, Dominic Solanke.

Kudus, Kudus come on recently.

He's good.

I think that's the thing.

You've got to remember the likes of Bergwijn is still homegrown as well.

So that can be a big issue in terms of selling a player like that.

So, yeah, I mean, as you say, this is something that we've got to factor in when we're considering these deals.

I mean, look, given that performance against Brentford from someone like Bergwijn, you know, 60 million would be a very attractive offer.

But then you've got to remember, you know, long term, you know, someone like that is homegrown.

Obviously, potential wise, you can keep getting better as well.