And especially for folks that have gone through these traumatic experiences, women that have gone through those traumatic experience, were you just educating them on like how to, how to mentally continue in life or what resources they have access to or how to, how to cope with what happened? Like what I'd love to talk to you about.

Yeah.

Let me talk then about the Vietnamese women who were attacked by pirates on the sea.

For many of them living in the refugee camp at that time, I would walk the camp.

The camp was quite large, 360 hectares.

And I would walk it in the morning and walk it back at the end of the day.

And I guess because, you know, tall white guy walking through a refugee camp, people would come out.

Reflecting on you, what has been your personal responsibility that you think you have as a human to the broader world? And how maybe it led to all different aspects over the five years?