Has it been tricky for you at times to get sort of training partners?

I feel like Perth has been...

Like, all the gyms in Perth have been really open to training.

So, like, if I need anything, Scrappy's always got the door open.

I've got the guys at Luis Stroh's that I can go to and get help from.

And, yeah, not just MMA gyms.

If I ask for boxing partners or Muay Thai or whatever, like, everybody seems really open to help me out.

at all?

You know, how it went and what went wrong?

Yeah, I mean, I'm thankful for the experience.

I mean, I still got to fight in Perth and, like, it was a cool event, and I did feel like I was doing some stuff well, although it wasn't for very long.

Um, yeah, mostly just, uh, moving back in a straight line for too long.

Um, I felt like I was getting out of the way and...

Early, and honestly, I was trying to hold myself back from going and just starting to trade with him, because I felt like...

I felt really good.

Can I ask y- if it is in fact Pantoja, Kaikara-France next, you know them, them very well obviously, who do you think wins that fight?