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Steve Chambers

Jun 22, 2026

22:27
So the stakes couldn't be much higher, and Steve, how is this going to be carried out? How is the army going to disentangle itself from Suvla and Anzac to start with? Because, of course, the Anzac beachhead in particular is so narrow that if this isn't done properly, the Turks or the Ottomans might pile in and turn this into a disaster.
22:47
Absolutely.
22:48
And it's going to be very complex and very hazardous as well.
22:52
And this, you know, can introduce the master brain of the evacuation, Brigadier General White, who I believe was Godley's chief of staff at the time, a master planner.
23:03
He was there very early on in the campaign.
23:07
And he's been thinking about this for quite a few months leading up to the actual date when they're given the order to evacuate Anzac and Suvla.
23:16
And he comes up with a multitude of different ideas.

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35:15
What's the secret to success
40:51
There's actually some other stuff that goes on in between that I think you could argue is part of the broader Krithia fighting.
40:57
Yeah, so the third battle in official history of the British there, the third battle is this giant, massive attack there.
41:05
It's almost the equivalent of the 1st of July for the Somme.
41:08
And they sort of save up for this, you know, they save up in terms of getting new troops, fresh men ashore.
41:14
So they land the whole of the 42nd Division, the 2nd French Division come ashore there.
41:20
So they have, I'm trying to work this out in my head now, 1, 2, 3...
41:23
They have five divisions up front, a massive amount of manpower.

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50:06
Without that being taken, pretty much everything else is fairly academic, right?
10:44
The big one is, where do you get water on Gallipoli?
10:50
Yeah, April, and I was out there April this year, and, uh, we had one day of sunshine, nice and warm, bit like a British summer, um, but the evenings were so, so cold.
11:02
So it'd very much, I think, like the Western Front or western climate.
11:05
So, um, the wool uniforms and those, uh, woolen shirts and cardigans would've been, um, blessings for those soldiers in the front lines there at that time.
11:15
Y- you mentioned the dugouts, you know, not the deep dugouts you're sort of f- familiar later on in the war, but these were just scrapings probably covered with a, a ground sheet or a blanket, one to shield from the elements, the rain, and also from the sun.
11:30
When the sun then into early May, it can still be quite wet, but by mid-May onwards, it can get scorching, and especially June and July and August.
11:39
You know, the temperature is hitting the upper thirties and forties, you know, a hundred degrees.

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22:35
Tell us a little bit about what the soldiers eat in Gallipoli, and perhaps how that plays into this dehydration issue.

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