Steve Abbott

I, I see it the other way.

I think the Collins campaign has done a, a very good job of consistently keeping their side of the conversation, uh, o- o- on the tips of our tongues, and I think yesterday, uh, Steve Abbott, campaign manager for Senator Collins, uh, was very impactful showing a photograph of Senator Collins with the guy who's now in [laughs] jail, uh, well before the accusation that, uh, you gotta pay money to have access to Collins.

I thought that was very effective.

But we touched on this a little bit last week.

No, I yield my time.

Look, I mean, I do think campaign finance is important, but I, I, and I...

Those issues, for real, but I think that Steve Abbott's thing yesterday is a bit of a mistake.

Like, do you...

PAC, 1820 PAC.

It's chaired by Scott Reed, who, as Susan Collins campaign manager said this week, is close friends with Susan Collins' husband, Tom Daffron.

And so so they they make this deal to do this donation and it's through a shell company.

But a week later, according to an email we received, an employee or consultant actually of the pack reaches out and says, we'd like to get Martin's phone number so that Susan Collins can call him and thank him.

What was the work product? You know, there's money flowing to Navitek from well before the donation to 1820 PAC to the period that your reporting centers on.

What was the work product? Was Navitek running a scam essentially where they did nothing and just got money from the government? or were they actually producing uh you know the 3d printed boats was the technology used is the university of maine still advancing these research projects uh you know i guess what did the taxpayer get for the money that was driven to them

yeah you know they performed research um and as i you know just explained to you there's there's dispute about the quality of the research that's what i'm saying i'm not saying that no work was done i was saying that the the work isn't of a quality that you would expect and i just want to point out something that's super interesting is that On Tuesday, Susan Collins' campaign manager, Steve Abbott, made the point that actually the research was useful because he held up this picture of a boat in 2019 that Navitek was associated with.

And then he held up a picture of a boat that was christened a month ago.

Susan Collins insults the people of Maine and the voters of Maine by having someone on her campaign staff who would say, "This is perfect" to a proposed crime, a crime for which the man, the man who ma- pl- made those contributions pleaded guilty and is currently serving time.

Amy Abbott's husband, Steve Abbott, is Susan Collins' campaign manager.

He tried and failed to defend Susan Collins today when MSD reporter Will McDuffie asked about another email revealed by ProPublica.

The article said that only a week after one of those checks cashed, one of Scott Reed's people told Cao, "The senator would like to call you.