Stephen T. Ayers

That was something that was in their package that was very impressive to say.

And I remember Stephen Ayers making the point of they really seem to understand the data and the analysis that goes into buildings.

And this is the kind of firm that makes sense for AIA to hire because of not only because of our own commitments and the data that is associated with them, but the fact that this is kind of where the industry is going.

We're interacting with more and more different kinds of data and needing to understand everything from energy modeling to like the kind of post occupancy experience and surveys.