Um, what about you, Steven?

So I love the iPod idea.

I do think that would, as the kids say, slap these days.

And so a new iPod would be awesome.

Two things.

I don't know.

I know it's a technical limitation.

Uh, what about you, Steven?

Um, what about you, Steven?

So I love the iPod idea.

I do think that would, as the kids say, slap these days.

And so a new iPod would be awesome.

Two things.

I don't know.

I know it's a technical limitation.

Uh, what about you, Steven?

That was really cool.

Thank you.

Yeah, so I had my Osmo Pocket 3, and that's what I used in all those shots where you saw me wearing the glasses.

I was using my Osmo Pocket 3.

And that one, the opening frame or the opening few seconds of that video, it's me talking in normal pace and everybody else behind me kind of in a time-lapse fashion.

And so what I did was I filmed myself just talking, doing it like normal, and And then I stepped out of the frame and let the Osmo Pocket 3 record for maybe 10 to 15 minutes.

And then in Final Cut, I masked myself out.

takes me about six hours to finish a podcast.

Steven, you wanna wrap us up here?

Number one, it's really exciting.

I think it is gonna open up to a lot of new people who have never tried Shortcuts before.

It's gonna make it more accessible.

Two, if you do try it and you're more technically minded and you're used to prompting LLMs, try not to be super verbose and detailed.

I know Federico Viticci was having issues with it, describing it, but he was also giving very long prompts, very detailed.

Try to just tell it the end result, like what do you want it to do.

[laughs]

Steven, you want to wrap us up here?

Number one, it's really exciting.

I think it is going to open up to a lot of new people who have never tried shortcuts before.

It's going to make it more accessible.

Two, if you do try it and you're more technically minded and you're used to prompting LLMs, try not to be super verbose and detailed.

I know Federico Vatici was having issues with it, describing it, but he was also giving very long prompts, very detailed.

Try to just tell it the end result.

Steven?

What's that about?

So growing up and doing music, I was in New York and, you know, a lot of the people I went to high school with, they went to Eastman Conservatory.

I had a friend go to Juilliard.

Yeah.

I had these people do, you know, go to these prestigious schools and I still studied trumpet.

I didn't go to one of those schools, but I thought to myself, I really need to focus on being the best or being excellent at musicianship or whatever it is.

And like, I remember there was a soul and ensemble type competition in New York.

So there's a larger topic I want to explore here on tech and focus, but I want to start it and frame it through the lens of how do you communicate to your kids what intentional technology looks like when dad is a YouTuber?

Yeah.

I had these people do, you know, go to these prestigious schools.

And I still studied trumpet.

I didn't go to one of those schools, but I thought to myself, I really need to focus on being the best or being excellent at musicianship or whatever it is.

And like I remember there was a solo and ensemble type competition in New York.

We called it NYSSMA.

And, uh, I did that and I got a 99 out of 100, and I was so sad that I didn't get a perfect, that I got one point off.

when dad is a YouTuber? [laughs]

Um, is this a strategy that you think will work for them? Is this something that they're- they're really feeling like there's an opportunity here, or do you think this is all just about the upsell? "Hey, you spend $200 more, $300 more, you can get this way better thing." Steven, where do you think this pricing strategy's going?

The 17E is such a weird place because the 16E bombed, and I don't think it was because of MagSafe.

I think it was just because when it comes to the phone, it's a status symbol.

It's also everybody's camera.

And even the Air, you know, didn't sell as good as the Pro.

So I- I feel like in some categories, like the phone, people are still gonna go for the more expensive, the nicer ones.

But the MacBook Neo, 100%, I think that one's gonna sell like crazy.

Yeah.

in the chair behind him.

Well, Steven, I w- wanted to thank you, I mean, for the opportunity that I get to come and be on this show, and for, you know, the last seven years have been great.

I was listening to, uh, the last few episodes with you and David, and you guys have such wonderful chemistry and have created such a great show, and so I will do my best to take care of it.

But what do I need to do now as a, as a Mac Power User? I was listening to you guys talk about Keyboard Maestro and utilities.

I was like, "I think I need to be more of a power user." What do I need to do, Steven-

Yeah.

I remember Mac Power Users on previous networks, and I've been listening to tech podcasts for so long, and it's surreal to me to be in a Slack with all these names that I've been listening to and reading and watching from afar for years.

And so it is truly an honor to be on the Relay.fm network.

Mm-hmm

... for Final Cut on the iPad.

So honestly, this is double that price, but then I get everything, uh, as a subscription.

It's pretty wild.

And especially for students, $3 a month for all of these apps, including Final Cut Pro and Logic, is pretty wild.

So for the education side, I think it's great.

When it comes to the iWork apps, that's where I'm a little more skeptical because that's where there's gonna be feature separation between the free versions, which, I mean, they've always been free, and they'll still be free with some features gated, so maybe it's not a huge deal.

[laughs]

Hmm.

And any...

the few things I've tried to write in the last couple years, just to do it, it just takes me so long and it never feels right to me.

Well, I'll read it back to myself, I don't like how it sounds.

Whereas when I make a video and I'm, I was speaking extemporaneously, I don't script anything, I'm just talking, it comes together faster for me for whatever reason.

And it is a double edged sword, like you're saying, the media, because as a writer, you can put it on your website, it's your content, no algorithm you're not beholden to between you and the audience, which is kind of like podcasting as well.

Whereas, obviously on YouTube, it's all about the algorithm.

Like, you look at it and you're like, "I know that's not realistic, but I actually like this better than a realistic looking car, because I know I could take it apart and it was my fingers that put it together."

Mm-hmm.

And so I'm inspired by my users to do that.

But if you're new to Shortcuts, I will actually give the Shortcuts team credit.

The gallery of Shortcuts, they update that a lot.

There's even Apple Intelligence examples in there now.

There's easy shortcuts that are like, make a meme from an image.

You know, just fun things that you can try.

Sure.