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Stephen Lawson

Tupoka Ogette's husband

Oct 21, 2026

18:22
Tire than I expected, to be honest.
18:24
Yeah, really close race.
18:26
I mean, I think this is tracking with what we've seen in a lot of the polling previously, that this is a neck and neck race.
18:32
Keisha Lance Bottoms at 45, Rick Jackson at 46, margin of error race again.
18:37
That's kind of been the trend in this race.
18:40
You've got about 9% of voters undecided in that race, Mark.
18:44
And really, I think part of the dynamic that you're seeing play out, not just in this race, not just in Georgia, but across the country, is this rub right now between independent and swing voters who probably don't like some of the things that President Trump is doing, but also are not sold on what the Democrats are putting forward or the brand nationally that they are offering.
22:25
If I'm in the Collins campaign, that gives me hope.
27:21
because of the Mark Arum Show.
27:24
Turnout is the name of the game.
27:26
We know that that is true, particularly in midterm elections when you don't have as much enthusiasm around a GOTV effort that you would in a presidential election.
27:36
So that's really key.
27:38
Low-key
19:48
You know what I'm trying to say? Like The timing is better for a Warnock run for the Oval Office than an Ossoff run.
19:55
Yeah, it's really interesting.
19:56
There's a lot to unpack here in that answer, Mark.
20:00
Obviously, the most important is John Ossoff being that direct and that straightforward about his pledge to serve out the full term if elected to another six years in the United States Senate.
20:11
Lots to unpack there, though.
20:13
You know, I think to your point, hypothetically, if Rick Jackson does win the governorship, he would have the ability to make an appointment to Ossoff's seat should he vacate that seat.
20:25
But let's remember a couple of things.
21:34
Congressman Collins, hopefully going to get a big boost this Friday when President Trump comes to campaign with him in Dalton.
1:58
Uh, what does each candidate hope to gain with Trump's visit, even if he's not here ostensibly to talk about politics, but he's here to talk about Trump accounts? And what are the risks for both of them to show up with the President?
2:10
Yeah, it's a really interesting setting, right? Uh, particularly Cobb County.
2:14
I mean, I think that's not lost on any of your listeners.
2:17
Uh, this is a county that was once solidly Republican, uh, has trended towards Democrats in recent years, and now is solidly a, a blue county, but still a suburban metro Atlanta county with lots of independent and swing voters.
2:30
So I think it's a really unique opportunity for both Mike Collins, but particularly for Rick Jackson to really expand, uh, his message to those swing voters in Cobb County.
2:41
Talk about, uh...
2:43
I- it's a great messaging opportunity, not just for the President, but for Mike and for Rick to talk about an issue that we know, uh, will be central to the campaign, which is affordability and cost of living, particularly for future generations and for families right now with these Trump savings accounts.

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12:09
Why do you think that is, and is there a chance that Mike Collins, as he continues to accumulate really bad headlines about potential neo-Nazi relatives, um, or ethics charges against him, is there a chance that Collins could be dragging the Jackson chances down?

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