Where were they moved to?

Well, lots of different sites.

There was a particularly sinister moment first.

The Iraqis raided the hotels.

"Wake up, wake up, get out, get out." They lined up the passengers, and they divided them into two groups by passport.

One group were, uh, British, French, American, uh, the Australians, the New Zealanders, the Canadians, and some of the Europeans, and the other group were Indians and Malaysians and, uh, so forth.

And ironically enough, several of the Brits told me they looked at the other group and thought, "Oh, those poor people, they're in for a hard time." But in fact, the division was that any country that Saddam Hussein decided would join the coalition against him, those people in captivity became his enemies.

These people who were held hostage for up to five months, what has become of them in the following years?

Man, what was that process like, those few years where you were a backup, where you were learning the game, while you were earning your spot, what was that like for you?

I had a luxury, a privilege of learning behind some guys that I really looked up to, man, still look up to this day.

And that was Terry Allen and Brian Mitchell and Mark Logan.

And those guys was great, great, great pros, man.

And, you know, it was...

Learning from those guys and being able to go out there and do some of the things that they was able to do and just having the opportunity to watch them every day.

to take their skill to a different level.

What were some of those things you picked up from B-Mitch? And what were some of that game he was able to give you? Because I know one thing about B-Mitch, he got some gems on.

The solution is also obvious, but that in-between gap, how do you bridge the two? How do you actually do this? What kind of strategies do you undertake to make sure you're solving that problem and get it to the people who need it most?

Yeah, so great question.

So we have a strategic plan that we're just a year into, which will explain how we do our work.

It was community informed, community led.

So we decentralized ourself from that process and talked to neighbors experiencing food insecurity, our partners that are working in hunger relief, growers and producers and food manufacturers.

And so really did a holistic community-based approach of like, what are the issues and what are the gaps that we experienced that we think would really help advance forward solutions to build a food secure region And then we layered ourself in after we did that and said, okay, what can we do then based on what those needs that got identified are that we are best positioned to help move forward? And so the way that we tackle our work is we look at our network resilience.

I mentioned we do this work with a fantastic network.

Sort of how much you focus on that side of it too, where we're in the field, we're doing the work, but it'd be nice to get some policy changes and some assistance from our local leaders, for example.

-historic realignments.

So the underlying model or thesis that I have is that in any political society with reasonably complex politics, uh, you'll typically have a binary division in politics.

There's going to be two sides, uh, fighting it out for control of the power of the state.

In the modern world, we call these left and right.

Uh, but there have been other labels.

In medieval Italy, it was Guelfs and Ghibellines.

In ancient Rome, it was Populares and Optimates.

Uh, but, you know, if, if you could just give us a, an overview of those preconditions.

These are all fascinating elements, each of which we could talk about for an hour or more.

But if you could just give us an overview of those preconditions.

To try and do this from the kind of view from 30,000 feet, but also to look initially at the evidence for this.

If you look at the voting patterns that we can now see in every country pretty much, including quite a few middle-income countries as well as developed ones, what you see is the following very, very clear division.

On one side, you have globally connected metropolitan areas plus university towns.

On the other side, you have rural areas, small towns and ex-industrial areas.

That's the geographical division.

Okay,

Um, it is true this is still going on on college campuses, right? Very difficult for TPUSA to, to have an event there because, uh, all they wanna do is go crazy on you.

Yeah, that's typical.

It's par for the course.

This is what we see on a consistent basis in our college campuses, tables being knocked over, our people being attacked, and torn down and torn asunder, and this is the essence of what the left does and what they promote.

Ultimately, they say that our words are violence, and I always say this is a two-pronged attack.

They say that our words are violence, therefore they're just defending themselves against their... our violent attacks, our violent words.

So-- And, and then they call us Nazis, they dehumanize us, they call us fascists and racists, and literally Hitler and things of this nature, and these, these names make us subhuman.

Thoughts?

Okay.

I don't think it's, I think the founder had passed away now.

But I knew enough about frequencies to make me dangerous.

I brought my kids in the clinic periodically and they'd get a little bit of relief, but it only lasts for a couple of weeks.

So I knew there was something going on there.

So in 2015, I rolled up my sleeves and started to go down this path.

I hooked up with another guy and we started to go down this path using light to deliver frequencies.

Right.

Why, Stephen, do you think the left chooses such bad heroes? It wasn't always like this.

Well, these are the ones that prop up their ideology of that America is this inherently unjust place.

And ultimately, we have to revamp the entire justice system to be able to make it more equitable for or BIPOC black indigenous people of color.

So that's their whole worldview.

They have to do this based on the worst of society, the worst of the black community.

They don't prop up the good people within the black community.

They don't prop up the Larry Elders.

Why hasn't there been any outrage for this poor girl? She was taking the train home from work, and she was murdered for absolutely no reason.

Wow.

So we learned a big lesson about following, uh, what other people are doing, and seeing that they're not getting any results, but they're still going [laughs] down all of those paths.

So two years into it, I said, "Lookit, let's just stop for a minute." And I knew a little bit about frequencies.

I had three clinics.

Like I said, I'm not a doctor, I'm an entrepreneur, and I found a technology that was using frequencies to balance the brain using musical tones.

That was my entry into the world of frequencies.

And I would bring my kids in periodically, and they would get a little resu- they would get s- a little bit of, um, results where they, they felt good for a couple of weeks, but then it would come back.

Mm.

Is there just a stud that is on this team right now? Well, we had a

reliever go up to the big leagues already this year.

Okay.

Straight from us.

He went last weekend.

That was quick.

So guys can always move that way.

Travs this year, it started out pretty slow, right?

What do we got going on with the Travs again? Let's touch on it one more time.

Mad Mallard's weekend this weekend.

Ducks Unlimited's out there with a bunch of stuff that you can bid on, get in on.

And the jerseys, the orange jerseys the Travs are wearing this weekend will be available in an auction.

We've got fireworks tonight after the doubleheader.

First game starts at 5.

Fireworks afterwards.

The

Uh, Travis this year, it started out pretty slow, right?

Yeah, it was, uh, playing well, but not winning games, which is frustrating.

Uh, and you know, usually it's, unfortunately it was some late leads that disappeared in the bullpen and it, Everybody points, well, the bullpen, this, the bullpen, that.

Well, you can pick out anything from the course of a game that could have gone differently, and you just feel like that because you had the lead late.

But everybody's been playing well lately, especially the offense in this stretch now where they've won 11 out of 12.

The last two ballgames, Tuesday, Tuesday night, and then yesterday after the rainout Wednesday, both times a 9-0 lead for the Travs.

Good

one's orange?

Mm.

And so these, how many militants does it take, how many guys does it take to kidnap 276 people? And how many vehicles do you need to carry them? And so this all happened, and reputedly, there was no trace of where they we- they went.

It was all almost too ridiculous [laughs] to, for words.

And, um, I had over the years in some previous encounters in Nigeria, um, and particularly the, having several thousand, um, militants surrender in the Niger Delta in 2004, some of them had, um, uh, Muslim connections.

And, um, over the years we've gotten to know a number of people in these groups throughout Nigeria.

So I knew some of the former members of Boko Haram, guys who had dropped out of it, and, um, it wasn't difficult to call some of them.

Everybody knows what's going on.

How did you actually open the channels to speak to the various governments to actually be kind of seen as legit in their eyes and be able to be part of that coordinated, uh, solution?

It's Steven's belief, however, that US officials didn't question any of Rodney's coworkers, and that's based off interviews he's conducted with individuals who were there at the time.

Their plan was just to have him sent back to Australia with no investigation, no follow-up, no why did this man die suddenly at the South Pole? And it would have remained a mystery for all times except a New Zealand coroner based in Christchurch, who was actually an, an Ant- Antarctic buff, heard about this and said, "Well, hold on a second.

I'm going to intervene here." And a New Zealand police detective was assigned to do an investigation.

Here's the interesting thing.

When the New Zealand coroner and the New Zealand police officer intervened, the US authorities complained vociferously.

You know, "South Pole is our territory.

Why are you doing...

Steven believes the reason behind the agency's reticence is multifaceted.