Would you care to speak to that?

Yes.

Well, of course, the mainline is in decline in some ways.

It's suffering.

And...

That could be worth a very, very long conversation, I suppose.

What I would attribute our success to is that we've been very committed to accomplishing a good thing right where we are, and not particularly, gosh, how would I say this? I'm inclined to say not paying attention to the larger denominational issues, although that isn't entirely true.

Comment on that for a bit.