Stephen Archer

I just thought I'd work it out on my own.

And Years later, this is probably nearly 15 years later, I was on retreat with you, actually, with our amazing teacher, Stephen Archer, and he just described mindfulness as a fear-reducing practice.

And that clicked because I was like, wow, yeah, actually, since I've been practicing this consistently...

I don't look over my shoulder as much.

So that was like, okay, this is big for me and why I keep at it, even though it can be

torture.

But also in that same retreat with that teacher, there was a kōrero about anger.

And this is where Chrissy comes