Stephanie Carvin

Over the next 25 years, it would reshape how Canada thinks about security, borders, and terrorism.

To understand how that day changed Canada, we spoke with national security expert Stephanie Carvin.

So I'm Stephanie Carvin.

I'm a former national security analyst.

I worked on terrorism issues with the government of Canada between 2012 and 2015.

The talks were reportedly going well until they broke down over a set of new conditions requested by the US side, including carve-outs for key goods and limitations on Canada's ability to make trade deals with other countries.

For today's archive, I chose an episode from February 11, 2022, in which Scott R. Anderson spoke with three Canadian national security experts, Amarnath Amarasingam, Stephanie Carvin, and Jessica Davis, about that year's trucker convoy, which blocked major points of entry along the border to the US.

They discussed the protests and its origins, domestic violent extremism in Canada, how it at the time could affect relations with the US, and more.

It's very difficult, and some have argued impossible to get them out, and this is very clear in Ottawa.

While nominally objecting to Canadian vaccination mandates, particularly as applied to truckers, the convoy movement has at times made even more ambitious demands, including the dissolution of the Trudeau government, and has close ties to far right-wing nationalists and ethno-nationalist organizations both in Canada and the United States.

And while the convoy movement began in Canada, there are signs it is beginning to spread, with similar efforts appearing in Australia and New Zealand, and intelligence reports suggesting the same may soon happen in the United States.

To put these recent developments in context, I sat down with three Canadian national security experts who have been following the convoy crisis closely: Amarnath Amarasingam Assistant Professor at Queen's University, Stephanie Carvin, Associate Professor at Carleton University, and Jessica Davis, President of Insight Threat Intelligence.

We discuss the origins of the convoy movement, its relationship with domestic violent extremism, and what it might mean for both Canada and the rest of the world.

The military has kept up to the same relationship.

And we were like, guys, what is going on? So we decided to ask a lovely friend of the pod, Stephanie Carvin, on to tell us what is happening, how should we be thinking about this.

Stephanie is an associate professor at Carleton University and a former national security analyst.

She has her own podcast shenanigans that she does on a regular basis that we can talk more about.