State defense force

And you talk about militias? You're the only one on this stage that has a militia.

You have two, the National Guard and the State Guard, and you have the National Guard at the cost of a billion dollars a year to the taxpayers-

Let's leave it there

... because you fired corrections officers-

And you talk about militias? You're the only one on this stage that has a militia.

You have two, the National Guard and the State Guard, and you have the National Guard at the cost of a billion dollars a year to the taxpayers-

Let's leave it there

... because you fired corrections officers-

And you talk about militias? You're the only one on this stage that has a militia.

You have two, the National Guard and the State Guard, and you have the National Guard at the cost of a billion dollars a year to the taxpayers because you fired corrections officers who said these prisons now are not only safe for corrections officers, they're not safe for the prisoners, and you fired them and put the National Guard in there.

You're the one that used a militia, not me.

And now we're in this scenario where we have to use the National Guard under Governor Kathy Hochul's failed leadership at an exorbitant cost to do duties that the prison guards would be willing to do if you didn't make it infinitely more dangerous than it needed to be.

And you talk about militias? You're the only one on this stage that has a militia.

You have two, the National Guard and the State Guard.

And you have the National Guard at the cost of a billion dollars a year to the taxpayers because you fired corrections officers who said these prisons are not only safe for corrections officers, they're not safe for the prisoners.

And you fired them and put the National Guard in there.

For example, they cite Section 77, I believe, of the New Jersey Militia Code, which has a provision that's almost identical to Section 103.

What they fail to mention is the immediately preceding section of the New Jersey code broadly authorizes the governor to call out the, the State Guard, uh, in case of evers- in-invasion or other emergency.

Let me ask you, in light of past practice, you cite a number of examples, most of which are based on Office of Legal Counsel at the Department of Justice opinions based on interpreting specific authorizations to do something, whether it's drug interdiction, um, or as you say, riots.

Um, is that a limiting principle that over time has been established on the president's authority as to calling out and deploying the DC National Guard as commander-in-chief?

That's what I'm getting at.

Um, a court may decide you are correct, but I'm just trying to understand what this court should understand was congressional intent, as at least, um, from the authorities' site of where the federal government, the Department of Justice and the Office of Legal Counsel, had looked at a specific authorization by Congress to do certain things with the National Guard.

And you acknowledge that, um, you know, these State Guards are subject to all kinds of local controls under state law.

Um, so the analogy would be if the commander-in-chief is set up like a governor, so too the Office of Legal Counsel was viewing, well, there's a specific authorization by Congress to, to quote, "use the DC National Guard for certain purposes," not just anything he decides he wants to do with the Guard.

And you talk about militias? You're the only one on this stage that has a militia.

You have two, the National Guard and the State Guard, and you have the National Guard at the cost of a billion dollars a year to the taxpayers because you fired corrections officers who said these prisons now are not only safe for corrections officers, they're not safe for the prisoners.

And you fired them and put the National Guard in there.

You're the one that used a militia, not me.

And you talk about militias? You're the only one on this stage that has a militia.

You have two, the National Guard and the State Guard, and you have the National Guard at the cost of a billion dollars a year to the taxpayers because you fired corrections officers who said these prisons now... are not only safe for corrections officers, they're not safe for the prisoners, and you fired them and put the National Guard in there.

You're the one that used a militia, not me.

In Kathy Hochul's world, you gotta ring a buzzer to have a store clerk come out and unlock glass for a bottle of shampoo in New York State.