StarLadder

Yeah

... were legitimately on the same kind of playfulness that we saw them at StarLadder throughout the entire best of five, and it was-

And very different caliber event.

Yeah.

... has struggled in his last stint as well.

And somehow even now, yeah, sure, they lost to Vitality in StarLadder.

Sure, they've lost to, you know, FURIA in EWC, but they look exciting.

Like, this is-

The first LAN events anyway.

Um, like on Astralis, on honestly events in general, they've never played, um, with Ryu in a non-tier one event aside from a single qualifier for a StarLadder or like something from ESL Pro League and stuff.

Um, this i- this is just...

So I'm starting to wonder if maybe Ryu just does, just still can't quite cut it in tier one, 'cause he's, he, he, they take a step down in competition and he activates big But, like, that's no use for Astralis 'cause as you say, they should be targeting major playoffs, if not more.

Yeah, first of all, if anyone watched that game, I actually did like a watch party for it.

One of the things that is a real bright spot is, I'll point this out on another show, when Na'Vi began the season, they did just start as the team that mainly banned Cache in most situations, right? Because one of the few good things to come out of Starladder was they played Maus on Cache and won it.

And actually, they pivoted and against G2, they picked it and they won it as well.

So, as I pointed out on past episodes, their whole map pool has been dogshit.

Yes.

And then they also do the StarLadder stuff.

Yes.

Is there, do they have anything in the US? Oh, it's, I don't know about the Ga- the Gamba in the US, right? Ah, of course, it's always that problem in the States, isn't it? Yeah, you can't get that injection.

... and his motivation and everything along those lines.

Yeah.

Um, but for me when I look at it, it's if they just, if they didn't win StarLadder-

StarLadder-Then, then I'm with you.

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I can believe they're finally gonna play fucking Cash, okay? They're gonna do it, and they're gonna fix their shit, okay? I, I watched Vitality at Starladder.

They actually looked, I think, surprisingly decent, and I also think the thing I liked is-

Mm