Stafford Slick

Um, but I've played it where when the tide comes in, you're playing on water.

Uh, I played Stafford Slick and Tim Bomgren once where you get a rogue wave coming in and, and you're just playing.

Tide, ocean's on the court.

So I'm, I'm hoping that the, uh, that the swells die down and that there's enough beach there.

Billy Allen was doing basically the volleyball version.

He had already played with Brady Halverson, AJ Mihalic, Trevor Crabb, Brad Keenan, and others, and then he started his Stafford Slick era.

Stafford is Billy's second act that produced some of his biggest hits.

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Um, some more, The, The Beatles didn't make it to age 30 together.

Billy Allen and Stafford Slick made it to, uh, ninth in the world when Billy was 37.

Stafford Slick, welcome.

Yeah, I love it.