Stable

Where is the horse at Tynong, is

it? Yep, down at Manny's Stables in sort of Pakenham, so it's about...

Oh, yes, I know where it is, yes.

Yeah, we do plan on going down.

And it was like, yeah, you're not having that status.

But you've got, and it's Manor House, Stables.

Now, the reason I mentioned football, and I know it might be boring to a lot of people, is when he signed for United, he was early 30s.

Literally, his legs had gone not that way.

There's a struggle there.

I mean, like you say...

Manor House Stables is a phenomenal place.

What an absolutely jaw-dropping place that he's created.

And, you know, just knowing the character that Michael is and Gemma is, because they were both in the public eye, we thought, okay, I think there's something here.

The Stables business looks amazing.

But you go wanting to know that there's something deeper.

And we found out, I mean, honestly, within the first hour of the first shoot, I saw a glint in Michael's eye that just showed me there's something to him where he's just always got a quip ready and he's so much more funny and lively and interesting than some outlets in the media would have you believe.

I think we always try and look at, you know, I'm sure lots...

I'm sure you've had lots of people in the space of documentaries maybe say this to you, Max, but we... we are in a great fortunate position where we're able to make these projects, but we're looking at the projects and the ones we want to do where we're It may be against the backdrop of an amazing sport and an amazing situation like this one was, but that is a bit of a Trojan horse for something else, which we hope is a lot more human and relatable based on human themes.

And so I think for us, it was, yes, on the face of it, it's a... former footballer, Ballon d'Or winner, and then this amazing Stables business.

And we're very aware of some other similar shows, particularly with Amazon.

Just to haul massive amounts of stone to the site.

Stabling and care for the hundred plus horses that would be used.

Why even bother? The mainstream narrative doesn't need to answer these kinds of questions.

Oh, what? They do? Yes, they do.