St Anne's College, Oxford

Um, and then I had spent two weeks in, um, Oxford, um, at a program through the school that I just finished my degree on.

These are my last two classes, um, at the King's University, and we were in Oxford at St. Anne's College.

And, um, there I am with some of my new people in the hall, and then, uh, behind the keyboard of course.

Um, I finished two classes, um, Faith and Culture and Leadership Revolution, and then Ron...

And you'd have to be very brave indeed.

Uh, in fact, I spoke to someone actually who'd been at St. Anne's College in the '50s, who'd met Elizabeth Anscombe, and I said: "What was she like? What did she say to you?" And they said, "Well, I was this enormously spunky girl in my day, and so I just went up to Miss Anscombe who everyone else was terrified of, and I said, 'Miss Anscombe, how do you manage to summon up the courage to ask a question in one of these seminars?'" And apparently, what Anscombe told her was, "I just repeat one of their sentences back to them, look puzzled, and say, 'But why?' And then they look terrified at me." [chuckles] And that does work.

She, as you said, she didn't go to one of these schools where you would get a training in the kind of work that would be celebrated, valorized when you went to Oxford.

She went to a, a private school, a girls school in London near Dulwich, Sydenham, I think it was called.