South African Army

They even played in the World War sometimes.

Kiwis would get together and, and play, you know, some guys from the South African army, and I just think it ma- yeah, it all matters.

Yes, uh, it, uh, matters.

I think it was agreed that, that it's four tests, um, in the beginning, so everybody committed to that.

I was feeling a deep sense of peace with our daughter sleeping in her front pack as we walked the village streets to do errands.

But I was still shaken by the image of South African army tanks threateningly pointed at the small farm school we'd passed along the way.

I saw a group of boys huddled against a wall, automatic weapons slung across their shoulders.

We kept walking, but my heart was pounding as I saw fear and confusion in one boy's eyes.

you kind of learn that, you know, survival depends on you.

And I don't want to get too much into the military, but, you know, the difference between the different forces around the world, what made, you know, the South African army so good and so special was there was no plan B.

If people went into, you know, a neighboring country, There was no coming to fetch you with lots of airplanes to evacuate.

There was no plan B.

I had a guy in yeshiva, amazing.

This guy was in the South African army.

Wow.

And they would make them walk barefoot in the forests- Amazing ... 'cause that's how the, you know, the African fighters, they're all barefoot in their forests.

They, they know how to walk without making a sound.

So the South African army, they trained them to walk in the forest.

I'd never seen someone's foot like that.

So many cuts and lacerations.