just

sort of a real bond created in the recording of that first song.

And it's something we just had to make happen after that.

I mean, we worked with Robert a lot on the sounds.

He has such a breadth of knowledge as far as the people he's already recorded, his own musical tastes, those sorts of things.

And...

I think he was also able to, there was a couple of keys, like locks we had to get undone with a few songs.

because,