Sonny Throckmorton

Sure.

And Sonny Throckmorton, Casey Kelly wrote that.

And I've kidded Sonny.

I mean, he's getting pretty old now, but I said...

We'd write songs all day.

But he had been at Tree Publishing and was responsible for some of the great careers from Roger Miller and Mickey Newberry, got Sonny Throckmorton, people you may not be familiar with, but people that, Harlan Howard, of course, they were all at Tree.

I mean, they owned independent publishing, but there were still great publishing company, companies like Combine, where Kristofferson and, you know, Whalen and all those guys were too, a little smaller company.

But, um, when we were done at the end of the day, people would start piling in that door, and Don would always send out for a few cases of beer.

I'll tell you.

And study the ones that That are really good, like Dean Dillon, Sonny Throckmorton, Rory Bork, Bob McDill.

Yes, love Bob

McDill.

But to me, it was like a puzzle, like loving crossword puzzles so much that now you want to design one.

Yeah.

And to me, that was, and I remember when I was 13, 12, 13, 14 years old, I knew who Rory Bork, Sonny Throckmorton, all these guys were because I'd see their lyrics, you know, and see their names.

And I would study the lyrics and, wow, how did he put this together? You remember no Pam Belford? Yeah.