And so why not?

Sonia, what's your experience? And I mean, it's interesting coming from prior to my role with the bank, I worked at an auction house and with an appraisal firm.

And so the main, the core of those businesses was art and the art world.

Whereas here...

My corner of being in our art services group is just one small facet in a business that has a much different focus.

So now that I'm in a financial context, I do encounter those questions more than I used to necessarily maybe.

But it's true what Michael says that like most of our clients who are actively collecting are They are not collecting for a financial gain.

So but and what's your experience with that, Sonia? Yeah.