Sonia Shaljean

And then I imagine... his life his future will be very different too many people are looking at the outcomes when it's often it's too late but it's not too late to stop other boys from growing into that life

absolutely that's the key point we don't have a time machine you can't go back and mend things for the adult men or men in older life for whom things have gone wrong but what you can do is use your time machine to look forward and that's why Uh, one of, one of, uh, the projects that I'm very close to, uh, run by a friend of mine, Lads Need Dads in Essex, run by Sonia Shaljean.

Um, and their name, Lads Need Dads, puts a lot of backs up.

Uh, Which is crazy.