Smule

And when we kind of talked in the past about product sense, I appreciate this is something you saw as kind of contributing to you on how you grew an advanced taste almost, if you will, for this kind of thing.

Because like Smule, I think you mentioned, was really, really metrics and growth driven, right? Yes.

What did the role entail there? What did that look like? And kind of how does that compare to other places you've been?

I wore many hats at Smule.

It was a small company, I think under 200 people.

But one of the biggest areas that I led was around growth.

If your product market fit isn't there or you're a company that's on the decline and you're looking for a turnaround or the value just is kind of a nice to have, I mean, the growth will kind of juice some numbers for a while, but you'll see a pop and a drop.

It's just the natural friction is there to prevent growth from being as good as it can be.

Nine years seems like a really long time, but honestly, it has flown by so fast.

For those of you who have not heard our first episode on how Chris and I met, Well, we met in 2016 on an app called Smule, where you basically just sing with strangers and it's so fun.

We were married within nine months of knowing each other, only six months of dating, and it all happened so fast.

You know how in movies when they say, when you know, you know.

I definitely feel older and I feel more responsible.

But as far as my mentality, I don't feel any different than the day that we first met.

And I can't believe that 10 years has already passed since the day that we met and sang our first song on Smule.

So as you know, I am much better at writing than I am at speaking words out loud because I fumble over every thought that I have.