Smalltalk

And, and so, so therefore, I'm trying to use what's currently available, and so how I can use that, and, and so be just flexible.

And even when listening to some industry classics like Kent Beck recently, so creator of Extreme Programming, Smalltalk, big Pra- best practices, TDD, and many other things.

And so he's saying that currently nobody knows.

So, so there will be some new approaches how we work and, and so those so who are telling that they know, okay, so they maybe are earning money, are being some sort of leaders in the conferences and getting paid for that.

Вот все построено из объектов.

Вот можно ли на таком языке написать программу так, чтобы она потом запустилась с такой же скоростью, как аналогичная программа, написанная на процедурном языке, например, на, ну, классический процедурный язык, на языке C. Вот вы написали алгоритм на чистом объектном языке, например, на, на Ruby или на Smalltalk, и потом написали аналогичный алгоритм на C. В современном мире это будет две совершенно разные, э-э-э, два совершенно разных класса по производительности.

C будет раз в тысячу быстрее, чем программа на Smalltalk.

И мы задаемся вопросом: а можно ли, чтобы они были в одном классе по про-по производительности? Примерно в одном, может быть, не абсолютно голова к голове, но примерно в одном.

Ответ пока, который дает индустрия: нет, невозможно.

So the answer to your question is I had been part of Apple from really the beginning of the Lisa computing project, which was a precursor to Macintosh, and without Lisa, Macintosh would not exist.

And the Lisa was built essentially by the people who were at Xerox PARC, who had done all the original work on Smalltalk and the, the Bravo architecture, which was WYSIWYG word processing.

What you see is what you get.

Tom Malloy, Charles Simonyi, they were at PARC.

And as a result of those community connections from the Object community, Jean-Marie came and visited NeXT and showed off what he was doing.

And, you know, it became Obvious that what we needed to do, particularly when you start to think about university professors wanting to build simulations and all this other.

And, and oh, by the way, to do a quick look back to Xerox PARC and Smalltalk, for those in your audience that are generally familiar, Smalltalk, operating system, living working environment, and user interface all rolled into one.

It's a little breathing-

Yep.

We have very, very, very slowly been building our way back to basically what Smalltalk gave us, which is one platform that is the front end, the middle, and the back end all together in one thing.

We've slowly been piecing that back together, uh, architecturally at least, but with using all different technology stacks front to back.

Mm-hmm.

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he gave Smalltalk, he gave Smalltalk-

Uh-huh

... as this example because there's like this interactive development environment, and a- once again, this is why, like kinda bringing us full circle of why you wanna study other programming languages, bringing me back to closure and the idea of the REPL-driven development.

and blocks and why we talk about blocks this is what i know is because of i worked with small talk developers and they were they were missing blocks in java back then and i tried to know to to find something which is blocks similar to blocks i have no idea what they wanted actually they couldn't they just said you know this is like in a class but nicer and it captures the state and i say okay but why you need it right and so and we had also a chat about clipper various versions of clipper and dbase and um and uh and what we also found out that clipper and what was related you are two um

Clipper and Smalltalk had some relation in terms of, I think, blocks themselves.

But two products.

There was

Gives it a very interesting history if this is in fact true.

The next

research we have to do is to find out the correlation between the song popularity and small talk popularity.

Is there a correlation