Skip Williams

This is...

Not only is it something I designed, but no, no, that, that looks like me, the art is based on me, and it's, it's something I designed and, oh, I'm in here." And that really was well-received, and we had lots of, lots of people from, you know, Larry Elmore and, uh, you know, uh, uh, Ed Greenwood and Zeb Cook and, uh, a billion other people, Skip Williams, et cetera, and, uh, Tim Task, um, all join us, as well as, you know, some, some, uh, newer, newer designers and folks as well, uh, uh, which was great.

And we really enjoyed that.

But, oh, [laughs] we, we also used a very silly...

We definitely looked to, uh, uh, to folks that were around at, at that time period.

Yeah.

And gosh, you know, Skip Williams' character was in, i- in there as, uh, Rufus and Bernay were Skip and my brother Ernie.

Those were their characters.

But, I mean, we get it.

solid six in the end that we'll talk about and that you guys already know from the the bills episode but by the end of 2e methods were everywhere they had 16 different flavors and all of them were working for fiends then in 2000 third edition came along and it cut fiends out of the picture entirely of course it didn't In the 3E Monster Manual by Skip Williams, Jonathan Tweet, and Monty Cook, it describes them simply as minor creatures from the elemental planes.

They get no lower planes, no demon bosses, no errands.

They just live on the elemental planes now like a normal little guy.