Skate.

We had to buy skins, and then nobody liked that.

So instead of just making a Skate 3, they were like, no, no, no, we're going to make it into exactly what you just said, a weird online-only free-to-play thing.

What we could do is put out...

gate to up res with a new set of maps and we'll sell you know whatever our normal margins are

Skate is a really interesting example of this.

So EA came out with Skate 4, but they just called it Skate.

People, like, figured out how to get custom servers, custom maps on it, so you don't have to, like, use that.

Because they were doing it just like a live service game, and, like, no one was really, like, that happy about that.

Half the time with AI, just modded some shit and fucking did some shit.

It's like, if Skate wasn't made, if these developers didn't do that, you wouldn't have these mods.

You wouldn't be able to have this fucking thing.

And they put a statement out saying that, basically.

doing is still stealing as it is.

Like

putting Spider-Man into Skate.

The reason that doesn't happen is because it's a copyright license thing.

[laughs]

Um, so Shredders is, it is to snowboarding as Skate is to skateboarding.

So it is a hardcore extreme sports simulation game, uh, with precise controls, with a control se- scheme that you really have to learn, otherwise, because d- it is not interested in holding you by the hand all that much.

It was originally a game that was kind of like an X- Xbox, like, really pushed it for a while, and then it just kind of went multi-platform.

No.

If that, if that's im- immediately put you, uh, off, then let me, let me be really upfront with the one major criticism I've got, other than those small technical hitches every now and again.

Uh, the writing in this is, I would generously describe it as trying to ape Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 or 4.

Oh, my word.

So I think that we need things to be stable to do well.

Actually, late last year they released the new skate game, like Skate 4, and it kind of popped off, which was completely unexpected, but it started, you know, in October and we had a really good Christmas because of it and so did a lot of the shops out there.

Mm-hmm.

Because people were like, oh yeah, I'm going to go get a board again.

But that was, like, that was, like, a post I saw earlier.

Someone had, um, shared some stuff, 'cause there, there's a person in the, um, Skate community that's at least, like EA Skate, like, the, the Skate Facebook community page, that's actually trying to, like, po- that's posting clips to, like, show off the game, like, playing the game.

Like, which is in...

Which I guess, you know, people are starting to show gameplay again of sp- them playing Skate and doing tricks and getting back to what the community was basically like for those kind of things.

And now people are being like, "Oh, some dude playing as a female character," and there's like, and they tagged in their video of them playing, and they put all the different comments up.

And it's just, like, kind of like whatever, 'cause he's just, like, kind of blasting these people for, like, being all weird.

... don't play RuneScape, then

... like, that's what I mean.

Wow.

So I was in Tony Hawk 4, I was in EA Skate 2 and 3, which I would find my twin playing me but altering himself to look like him.

Oh, of course.

You got to.

... rather be the skater that I look up to.

I think we asked Tyshawn this.

That's like even the new EA Skate, which I love the game, but you can only be yourself.

Right.