And then we will talk a little bit about other topics.

Sure.

So de- definitely, uh, this statement of factor of four on cost coming from Damian is for sure a well-thought, uh, point of view.

If I would say it, it may sound like I'm trying to sell a technology, you know.

So I refrain from giving expectations on that.

Also because I know how dependent this is on several factors that are out of control.

So we've been speaking, uh, uh, in the last minutes about, uh, the advantage of... advantages of the more extremes of the industrialization, robotization, data-driven process.

Explain why you, uh, think that term is better and, uh, what you mean by it.