Simone De Haan

And since my goal has been more to kind of celebrate pie butcher bird accomplishments, I haven't been so big on having things improvised around.

But like some people have, Simone de Haan did a nice trombone piece and did a beautiful job of, but he spent a lot of time with the bird.

You know, he didn't just like, I'll do my downtown New York licks with this.

One thing I notice is a wry humour in a lot of your writing, in all of your books, and sometimes in your approach to playing the birdsong as well.