How widespread is that of those feelings, both anti-Israel and anti-Semitic discourse in Turkish society today?

So it's so widespread, I stopped following it.

It became too repetitive.

It's just all pervasive.

It's just there everywhere.

So whether you want to look at anti-Semitism or if you want to separate anti-Zionism from anti-Semitism, that's fine.

You can find lots of it anywhere.

How would you kind of assess their ambitions in Syria? And I mean, do we think that a clash is inevitable between them and Israel over that area?