Can you just talk about that path and what kind of got you on that?

Yeah.

So I think, you know, my entire life I've been pretty quantitative.

I think growing up, I mean, going back to like the origin story, the youngest of three brothers and we were very different.

My oldest brother's a doctor, my middle brother's a journalist, and I was always the one who was interested in, you know, building things and engineering and physics and math.

And so I went to Harvard undergrad, like you said, pretty unconventional, I guess, to go to engineering.

It's gotten better since I've left, but... studied mechanical engineering.

put yourself to sleep or is that how, like, pure