SimCity 4

It is actually astonishing in some ways just how much damage Trump is throwing at it and how resilient it is.

So it's a bit like, I don't know if anyone ever played the game SimCity 4, and after a while you'd get bored of, oh, you know, everything's running so well, why don't I chuck a hurricane at it? LAUGHTER And that is, I think, basically Trump's approach to, oh, yeah, oh, I run the most powerful nation on earth.

Let's see if I can do anything about that.

A lot of

Of course, having industries regulate themselves is a tried and tested solution.

I mean, it doesn't work, but we have tried it and tested it, and that's the important thing.

And it also explains why, for example, with the water industry regulating itself, the ancient river-based game of fish or turd is so much less predictable than it used to be.

Right, at the end of our AI round, it's five points all.

Yes, it's like catnip for me.

The last thing I played was SimCity 4.

That's the last city builder I played.

So it's just you're ready for one of these games, is it like?