Silver mining

But anyway, that's what I see going on regarding silver.

My own personal positions are heavily biased towards silver and silver miners.

I didn't have this question prepared,

but I did want to pick your brain on the paper market versus physical, because this is a very frustrating aspect of not only silver, but of many commodities, oil being one of them where we're seeing a price on our screens.

Let's

take a look at the gold miners versus the price of gold as well.

You call it the most important chart here, XAU, the Philadelphia Index of Gold and Silver Miners versus gold monthly going all the way back to 1985.

Can you walk us through what you're seeing here and its significance?