Shona Robison

I, I once did, um, and it ended up in the paper somehow.

'Cause it's been, they had been in for budget talks, um, with, with Shona Robison I think at the time.

And he, and he, he came out of the ministerial lift, and we're all there waiting to, to speak to people who've been having budget talks, and he sort of strode over like, "Yes." And I think it was maybe during that period when they thought maybe Labour were in a good enough position, they might win the next election, and maybe the Lib Dems could prop them up, and he could have this great position.

Um, and he sort of came over and he was glint in his eye.