Shodo Harada

really interesting and engaging.

So yes, as you say, Japanese Zen doesn't have so much of that hermit tradition, but the teacher Shodo Harada Roshi, who has a lot of Western students, he did practice in the mountains alone for maybe a year, at least quite some months after being in the monastery.

And he had a kind of a big breakthrough up there in the mountains and then came back to the monastery.

And then we have like shuyun empty cloud in china who did a lot of like hermit practice in the early part of the century and we kind of revived chinese buddhism and zen and uh there's a there's this great film called uh mountain path yeah i'm gonna