Shelly Yakus

Okay.

Um, now mind you, the producer and the engineer for Tom Petty was Jimmy Iovine and Shelly Yakus.

And, uh, I would say that I learned more from Shelly than I did...

I mean, part of it was because I spent six, nine months, whatever it was, you know-

Couldn't find anybody that wanted to hire me, uh, as an engineer.

In fact, had an amazing conversation with an engineer named Shelly Yakus, who was the chief engineer at the Record Plant at that time, who said he really liked my tape.

He didn't believe in women in the studio.

Wow.

To my face.

What? Shelly Yakus? God.

Like I was a fairy that he had to believe in for it to happen or something.

That is crazy given all that he's done, and John Lennon, the work that-

It no longer was a band, but it was words, poetry, sound, portraying atmosphere and feeling and emotions.

It was, and the engineer was Shelly Yakus, who was John Lennon's engineer at the record plant.

So I got a lot out of it spiritually, you know, because he was really, he was approaching what he was doing, just like the Indians were doing their chanting, you know, Hare Krishna, and they get into it.

And he was getting into it, you know, like in a chant devotional way, but