You know? And so do you remember when you made that choice? Like, hey, you know what, I'm just gonna throw ev- all my, all my chips into one bag and give this thing a try.

Um, yeah.

I've, I've never really been the kind of person to throw it, you know, all into one bag.

Um, but um, it was basically like, you know, I was saying that that moment really was kind of pivotal for at least me beginning the pursuit.

Um, I bought just a little point-and-shoot digital camera.

Um, and I started messing around with it while I was there in, in LA.

And then, um, I think as I was taking like, [laughs] you know, my first photos on it, I was, it was a self-discovery thing where I was like, "This is so cool." Like, cameras are so awesome.

... favorites in, in your, in everything that you've put out, do you have some that you could say were probably the funnest clients to work with or shoots to be on?