As a DevOps guy, what is your advice for people who don't even know what DevOps is or want to jump into DevOps and they're just like a network admin or they're a system admin? What would be like your two-liner approach to explaining what is DevOps?

Sure.

I think it really depends on what your background is.

So if you're coming from, like my background is system administration.

I was a sysadmin for like 20 years, which makes me old.

I'm old.

But I was coming into DevOps and I had that history.

So after we've got Linux, Where do we go from there? After Linux?

What happened to

you? I'll actually start right from the beginning.

Alright, so I went to high school like all people do.

Most people do.

Out of high school I went to Michigan Tech and I was going to be an electrical engineer for the sole reason that they made a lot of money and that's what I wanted to do.

I was a pretty smart guy.

I went to Michigan Tech during the third semester.

So, I mean, it