
Shawn Kanungo
Canadian innovation strategist, keynote speaker, and bestselling author of "The Bold Ones"; former Deloitte consultant (12 years) focused on AI, disruption, and innovation.
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Sep 19, 2026
Ep.118 Shawn Kanungo - Try to Get Fired
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I think one of the game-changing things with Astra, for example, is that they've solved computer use.

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It's the idea that now the AI can use any software better than any other professional.

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Meaning, we have all this software, but we don't maximize the capabilities of what Harvey or Legora can do.

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And so, more and more, the software will use the AI will use the software more than humans.

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And so if we just say, hey, go and retrieve this information or do this work, the AI will go off into those different tools and do it.
Shawn Kanungo: Accountant to Innovation Strategist — How To Stay Ahead In The World of AI
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So what do you think about that? Do you think that people are more successful if they have what I'm referring to as a portfolio career as opposed to, you know, the one thing that they pick and the one thing that they're doing?

Shawn KanungoGUEST
I am conflicted on this because, you know, in my book, The Bold Ones, I pull up this study, and it's probably the most profound study on innovation that anybody's ever created, which is these researchers, they took a look at some of the greatest innovators, thinkers, inventors throughout history.

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They unpacked their careers and tried to discover why are these individuals so prolific over time.

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And what they discovered was that, in fact, these individuals went through a period of exploration.

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And then at some point, they exploited just basically what I told you right now, which was what I did.
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But how do you know is the person venturing out into that new world? How do you know whether or not to keep going or whether or not it's the wrong path?
