So that, is that-

That's what I went to college for, was equine studies and business management.

So my first job was selling horse feed, and I did that for seven or eight years.

And traveled all over selling that.

And once I had our second kid, it was just too much travel, so I got more of a local job and started working with logistics companies and office.

And eventually, this grew big enough, it justified me coming here and working here full time.

[laughs]

And he, and he doesn't have set hours.