Shabda

And so therefore that's the realm of science as well, the science and philosophy.

takes a step beyond that and says, no, well, information can come beyond, right? So that would be in the Pramana system, that would be Shabda.

The Greeks never had Shabda.

They never had revelation about the possibility of a non-material form.

And so therefore they considered observation informed them that all bodies are material.

not done the yoga previously but starts fresh in this life? That is being explained by the second life.

Even the mere seeker who is now embarking on the path of Atma Samyama Yoga, the one who merely desires to know about Yoga of Atma Samyama, Shabda Brahma Ati Vartate.

He transcends the domain of Shabdabhram.

These words reveal something even more

remarkable.

Even a Jitnyasu, the mere inquisitive seeker who is only now beginning

to showing interest to know what is yoga.

Transcends Shabda Brahma.

Me, I hadn't before this, so...

First of all, maybe the name Shabda, we can explain it Sanskrit word speech.

So the word is in the beginning is the word.

I think it's in the Christian context.

Then we continue with a major theme with Aurora, which is, yeah, I'm not 100% sure what the reference point for that one is, but I agree that it is sort of like maybe the hearkening back to more of the crisis treatment of Jubilee Bells, in terms of vibe, interestingly enough.

And also, we talked about that, David Bedford's Symphony No. 1, I think it was, that has a section like at the end of one of the movements, it's sort of like that vibe.

I was going to mention Bedford as well, because There's also a vocal, of course, on the orchestral tubal bells, and it's sung by, I'm not sure what the name of the singer is, but it's an operatic singer.

And Westenra is not.

The question was always which authority and why.

You taught us that the Vedic authorities and evidences, pramanas, perception, inference, shabda, are not competitors but ascending levels of vision.

The senses reveal fragments Logic arranges them, but transcendence must descend from beyond the limits of speculation.

Therefore, for understanding the self, suffering, and our eternal relationship with Krishna, you directed us to shabda, divine sound received through the transparent medium of realized teachers.

You placed this understanding in our hands, and then you gave us the Srimad Bhagavatam.

The following is a quote from Prabhupada's preface to Srimad Bhagavatam.

Now what is this Atman? It is not what the scriptures say

as Shabda.

Because it is beyond the Shabda.

Beyond the sound.

Beyond the syllable.

And Chandogya is Samaveda because the initial part I think of Chandogya is all like a lot of rituals and the importance of Samam.

Basically it's utterance or the Shabda music.

Samaveda is supposed to be very poetic or very, what do you call?

Yeah, it's sound.

And so in veterinary medicine, they have to make tough choices because of that lack of...

Would it be Shabda? No, what would the...

What's the

Sanskrit word? I'm not sure.

And then from sabda tanmatra comes akasha.

From akasha comes Shabda.

And then from that comes vayu tanmatra, and then from that comes vayu, and then comes sense of touch.

So there is a process.