Seth G Benzell

But first, we're excited to learn about his evolving views on AI, and especially to pin him down on what pro-worker technology actually means.

I'm Seth Benzell, always racing with the machine, and I don't mean using a treadmill, at Chapman University in sunny Southern California.

And I'm Andre Fracken.

Very excited to have Daron on the show.

Coming to you from San Francisco, welcome to the show.

Thank you, Andre.

Thank you, Seth.

This is my true pleasure and honor.

I'm going to push back on this.

I like that Seth is the good cop and Andrew is the bad cop in this.

Thank

you.

Today we're joined by Martin Baraja, a top economist at Berkeley who has exploded onto the scene with a raft of influential macroeconomics of AI papers.

He'll be talking to us about AI-enabled dictatorship, economic growth when no one knows how AI companies are allowed to use the data they hoover up, and so much more.

I'm Seth Benzel, always ready to fight to appropriate a share of the world's knowledge, coming to you from Chapman University in sunny Southern California.

And I'm Andre Frackin, coming to you from San Francisco, California.