Mm-hmm

... is to just, is to just divorce myself from that completely.

It's been so liberating, I can't tell you.

To, to not care about those elements and to decide what you're gonna care about, and it be the one thing you actually do care about, and then focus on it completely with integrity and honesty and, and transparency.

And I, I just, it's so easy to say no now.

I, I get asked questions all the time.

The answer is always no.

[laughs]