Secret Service Counter Assault Team

Can you cover off on that anything?

No, I think, you know, I really enjoyed my time on CAT.

I would have probably stayed on CAT longer.

I mean, obviously, I'm not going to turn down a promotion.

You know, and I'll be honest with you, when I got promoted, On PPD, at the time when CAT was under PPD, as a general rule, even if you were going to be a CAT supervisor, you went to the jock first.

Every 14 on the detail, you know, a few months at least in the jock and then went to, you know, shift leader or detail leader or whatever.

So when I initially got promoted, that was, I didn't even, I still had all my CAT gear.

I had my M10 or not my M10, my.

Well, welcome back to yet another episode of The Debrief, and have we got an awesome day for you today.

Coming back for a- another guest appearance, John Constantine, retired United States Secret Service agent, and for the last 15 years, John was a leader of a counter-assault team and an instructor, and now recently retired.

He's also the owner of Constantine Consulting and Training, and soon to be a number one Best Times-

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... term of en- term of endearment.

John has a phrase that he really needs to trademark, copyre- copyright, and it is, "Felt, not seen." And John, in essence, describes that's what the counter-assault team was like.

We were there.