Seb Atkinson

But he's been binned off, hasn't he, in, in terms of the EPS squad.

Seb Atkinson's in.

I think he had a r- pretty good summer as a 12.

It's always the balance that you're picking and you're looking at who's playing, h- how many games have they played.

But his point was, you have to have two, and ideally you have a third who's like an organizer.

So a Jordie Barrett, or in England's case, like a Seb Atkinson, who will cover huge amounts of ground and be an organizer, as well as having the, the two kind of established playmakers at 10 and 15.

It's maybe getting into the weeds, but I think the importance of...

So I had to, I had to pick a sort of composite team of South, of South Africa and New Zealand from this, from this, um, series, and Will Jordan was one of the first names I thought, even though Ethan Hooker was kind of probably superior in the air on that wing for a lot of the series.

Like I had a good, probably three, four minute chat with him, which, you know, he appreciated.

Seb was really good as well.

Cause being as a boy, he's only five, he's obviously very nervous seeing these big men up close, but

yeah.

They're just used to dealing with little ones.

And some that clearly... and not yeah it's

interesting you can tell like someone like Seb you can put you can tell the way he was interacting and conducting himself he's benefited from being with the England squad almost in that regard I think because you know he wasn't doing a lot but he kind of stood up above the ones around him same with Lutz you know someone who's been in front of the camera a lot Lutz Lutz was pretty good with him you know even though Lutz is one who's going to be in demand a lot like same with Jamal hmm They're the kind of players they don't because they've got that presence.

I don't have to say a lot, but they clean some attention.

And he, he showed games, like I think it was the Exeter game, right, where he scored a couple of tries and he was just running the show.

Um, in a, in a season where they didn't pick up many wins, they went and got a win and every, all of the attack was running through Seb Atkinson and then off to Max Llewellyn, and I think he, he really proved himself and that's where the partnership grows.

But I think that's very, very fair.

Um, we're on number seven, aren't we?

Um, I think James was spot on when he said sort of it's, it's patchy.

He's had times where he gets a, a few games and he looks good, and then it's that injuries, isn't it, that, that, that, that's the issue for him, which I think is why I've got him lower.

Um, if he can just stay fit and see that partnership kind of build, um, with Seb Atkinson, then again, you might, we might be saying that he, he's higher next season.

Um, I think it's a good...