Vancouver Surge

So, um, you know, there's no guarantee that they're going to be able to kind of lift them out of, you know, the, the bottom four, especially with how deep the CDL is generally, you know, there's a lot of talent, uh, and especially at the top, like if they run into the gentlemen, it's in phase and optic and LAT, and they run into these teams consistently.

Like it's going to be, I think a bad time, uh, for cloud nine in New York, uh, Uh, another team, uh, that confirmed their rosters, the Vancouver surge, they were confirmed, uh, the team on the October 22nd.

Uh, so this will be Vic dimensions, Webby and Mamba.

So Webby comes over from cloud nine, New York.

Like he didn't really get too much time to kind of show what he, uh, what he was capable of, but obviously there was a lot of hype around him coming in, uh, to, I guess the last part of last season.

Mamba was on the surge to end last season.

He started with G2 Minnesota, and he lasted most of the season with them and then finished with Vancouver Surge.

And then Vic and Dimensions are getting their first opportunities at the CDL.

I admittedly like, you know, if he was pretty good as a rookie coming in with Renegade and then big whoa big wake is is gig awake in a sense like that's at least three players that that could have been somewhat exciting to to watch play together but it's it's relevant now because it's not happening so um yeah no i'm not really sure what's next i think he said uh ronnie reported nezra could potentially be a replacement i i guess uh Was that the report? Maybe it was.

Oh, it was maybe a report on the Vancouver roster I was looking at today, too, like Nezra was mentioned in that.

So, like, for everything we've talked about over the last several months about the Cloud9 roster that competed towards the end of the season and whatnot, like, potentially somebody is still getting a shot.

And I guess if you count Levy on there, potentially half of the end of season Cloud9 roster getting a shot.

But that's asking.

really a lot.

And then Vancouver.

Uh, so they announced that Vic has joined their team and they also announced Mamba.

So they did have a previous connection.

It also kind of plays into the reputation that Neptune has quickly developed in the CDL of like, not being the best teammate, not necessarily being the best person to have on your team, even though he might be among the most talented, especially considering what we saw with the Vancouver Surge and even this past season with the Paris Genomates at times.

I don't think that anyone really doubts that the talent is there, but that is a really weird situation for someone to just at least from Clayster's mouth, say he ghosted us.

What do you think about that? Especially because Neptune also had an interview with attached.

There was a picture last year from Champs, I believe, of nine or ten pro players' fathers all watching the games together and stuff.

uh i thought that was really cool and and obviously this is uh a little different than that but at the end of the day you know it's your kid and you're going to be supportive of him and whatnot and krim did have a he replied to uh the tweet with the screenshot of neptune's dad's comment with one of those gifts and it's like the the w the guy mouth and wtf and you know who knows what what happened there but yeah i do think like you said that the biggest thing here is the the m80 leak which has been reported but we haven't really heard too much more on that since the initial report i believe it's going to be neom estrial neptune and nasty but i don't know if the nasty part was ever like reported on further than just the initial like you know, feeling it out phase or however you want to phrase it.

But yeah, that was another part of the Attach interview with Neptune that I did think, you know, not necessarily interesting, but it's just something they brought up and it's something we brought up too is like, Neptune was obviously a part of that Vancouver Surge team that we've talked about a while, two years ago now, with O4, Abusa, and Nasty.

And coming into this past season, Neptune gets his first championship after getting all those second-place finishes.

So the first thing that was released October 1st, Ravens zero in on Abe as the fourth piece of their EU roster, along with Beans, Aphro, and Mythix.

So they basically, they're basically saying here, like, Abe didn't have a standout season between Koi and Surge.

He was a player with a lot of potential.

Abe is seen as somebody who could mesh well because he's played with European players in the past.

G2 Minutes showed interest in Icons during the offseason, but it now looks likely that he will join Carolina alongside Abe.

Skies is also set to join, bringing much-needed veteran experience to a young roster.

Vancouver Surge also showed interest in Skies, but the players on that team felt that Mambo was a better fit, leaving Skies to the Ravens.

Additionally, sources indicate that over the past 72 hours, the Ravens inquired about dimensions in Webby, but those two appear to be signing with the Surge.

[laughs] So, um, I, I would expect some of the top coaches, you know, like Karma and, and the Faze coaches and, and whatnot, I, I think if they have a full year of it, I think they will be able to take advantage of it and, and work it into their system much better than some of these bottom teams.

I do think it could help some of the bottom, like especially you think about a team like, uh, Vancouver Surge where we were talking about, you know, Mamba versus Skies or whatever and like now like if Art- Arturra is still the coach, like he can help Some of those-

Mm-hmm

... young, unproven players a little bit in terms of improving the comms and stuff.

... um, so they weren't gonna sign the European guys, uh, presumably because of the visas and all that good stuff.

Now it seems, according to Ronnie Intel at Breaking Point, uh, that the Ravens are actually targeting Icons and Skies to join Abe.

So the, the previous roster was supposed to be Abe, Beans, Afro, and Mythics, and now it seems like it's gonna be Skies, uh, who had previously been linked to the Vancouver Surge, I believe, and then Icons and now Abe.

Uh, uh, the, the previous report said that Abe would, they kind of build around him, uh, which was just odd because he was the fourth guy, uh, it seemed like on that European roster.

Surge.

Vancouver Surge.

You're getting 3-0'd.

Your, your average placing is si- is worse than 12th, and it's only a 12 team league." Like [laughs] we need to, we need to see that number improve.

He said, sources tell us that, uh, Toronto Koi player Abe is the top choice for the fourth spot.

Abe didn't have a standout season between Koi and Vancouver surge, but he is still viewed as a player with significant potential.

More importantly for the trio, Abe is seen as someone who will mesh well with them and Having played alongside European players in the past, mixed NA and EU rosters have run into chemistry issues before, so the Ravens prioritizing that fit is a smart move.

Abe also brings much-needed pace to the lineup, which could enhance the roster.

Uh, there were two reports.

Uh, the, the latest one came on September 28th from Ronnie Intel breaking point.

He said, report, we, he said, we reported earlier this week that that the Vancouver Surge have begun making moves on their next roster, closing in on the team war duo of Zvik and Dimensions.

We can now confirm those deals are set to be finalized within the next 72 hours.

So we'll see.

Vancouver Surge, they're taking a risk on young guns.

Former Huntsman player in Dimensions getting the call up.

Excited to see that.