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... audit last week, and I, and me being honest, hands up, I get put on a couple of things.

What installers can do is they can pick their best job that they think that job's absolutely perfect 'cause they ask MCS if you're auditing the people.

So MCS is the entity, then I'm with, I'm a member with the IAA, right? So the IAA who are issuing me and who follow through and test me on behalf of MCS.

You've got your NAPITs, you've got all, all these other kind of crowds, right? You can pick your best one and hope that it all goes good.

We, I don't have a best one, we just pick one at random.

I would rather get picked up on stuff.

What is it in that particular system that has pulled that whole system down to actually create this hugely inefficient system?"

So there are a lot of ways we can go with this, Sean, I guess maybe just give us the history of this whole process and a little bit of backstory of how we got to this point in the first place.

Yeah, well, that's a great question.

It has been, I guess, chaos in the college sports landscape.

Like you said, I've been executive director for two years and about a month after I was named executive director, we had CHL eligibility.

Last summer, we were dealing with the house settlement.

Now this summer, we're dealing with the age-based eligibility model.

And really what this stems from is litigation against the NCAA.

What are some of the most frequently asked questions you have been getting that have now been answered by this model?

So there are a lot of ways we can go with this, Sean, I guess maybe just give us the history of this whole process and a little bit of backstory of how we got to this point in the first place.

Yeah, well, that's a great question.

It has been, I guess, chaos in the college sports landscape.

Like you said, I've been executive director for two years and about a month after I was named executive director, we had CHL eligibility.

Last summer, we were dealing with the house settlement.

Now this summer, we're dealing with the age-based eligibility model.

And really what this stems from is litigation against the NCAA.

What are some of the most frequently asked questions you have been getting that have now been answered by this model?

I think there is something about long-distance walking which really brings out this sense of mission and objective, and I'm sure that must have been greatly amplified by the people who were using these as corpse roads and carrying coffins.

This film started, uh, way back when...

Cut a long story short, but essentially, so Kayla Janese, who's the executive producer, who I've known for several years, used to stay with me when she was visiting London.

And, um, she's, you know, a film programmer, a film writer.

She's seen everything.

Uh, and there was one time when she basically turned around to me and said, "Show me something I haven't seen before." And it's like, [laughs] "You don't ask much, do you? You've seen everything." Um, but it, it suddenly occurred to me, and I was like, "Oh, have you seen the, um, M.

R. James Ghost Stories for Christmas, the old BBC series?" And she was like, "No, I've never seen those." And so I showed her some of those, and she just absolutely fell in love with them and got kind of obsessed with this whole tradition.

Um, but I, I, I sort of like [laughs] the fact that, that, uh, that nobody gets to know what everybody's thinking.

Yeah

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the first place I read about it.

Um, and at that point, it was still very, very hard to see.

Um, [lips smack] I remember then becoming f- uh, a f- uh, a friend of mine who I'm still friends with to this day, he'd seen it on late night BBC TV-

And as somebody who had moved to the country, obviously it really resonated- [laughs]

... with, with me, seeing it over and over again.

Um, why do you think that that was big in that decade? Um, I don't know.