Sean Goggins

First of all, I watched, I finally watched Gavin McGinnis debating Brian Shapiro.

And I was texting Sean Goggins, Gavin's producer, while I was watching it.

And it just, It kind of blows my mind that this Brian Shapiro guy, if you just watch him, he's a white, he's a Jew.

He's a white Jew, ginger.

Always have been.

Interestingly, now his producer, Sean Goggins, was a Facebook friend of mine.

And I can't remember how Sean and I found each other or how he found me.

But, you know, we shared texts for a long time.