What do you do as a business, and how did the business come about?

Hi, Jimmy.

Thanks for having me.

Um, just one correction.

I'm not, uh, I'm not the founder, but I am, um, I am the CEO and a shareholder.

Um, Mobilise, it's been around for a little bit less than 30 years.

It started actually as a business called A1 Taxi, and it, um, financed minibus taxis.

How does a proposition like that affect your value proposition as an insurer in how you treat those assets perhaps, or how you treat, uh, those markets? And how is it that you think you could add to, um, the services that you offer at the moment?

What do you do as a business, and how did the business come about?

Hi, Jimmy.

Thanks for having me.

Um, just one correction.

I'm not, uh, I'm not the founder, but I am, um, I am the CEO and a shareholder.

Um, Mobilize, it's been around for a little bit less than 30 years.

It started actually as a business called A1 Taxi, and it, um, financed minibus taxis.

How does a proposition like that affect your value proposition as an insurer in how you treat those assets perhaps, or how you treat, uh, those markets? And how is it that you think you could add to, um, the services that you offer at the moment?

That's right

... run of attacks happened, um, where it all basically kicked off, you know, where you sense something had changed in the water.

So we, so Nick and I started working around the, the issue at that point and writing about it and, and working with the DPI, and, and I think the writing was on the wall back even then that, you know, it changed so suddenly in that short period of time that you go, you know, you could only imagine it's probably gonna keep changing over the next 10 years, which is exactly what it's done, um, to the point where today, like you said, mate, you can't really, you can't even pick up a, a newspaper or anything about it today without reading something about sharks.

And, and so kind of, mate, we just, you know, we, when Nick and Hannah came on, we go like, "What are we gonna do?" Like we need to, you know, we wanted to put big ideas into the mag and get it back to the glory days, Vorno.

And I thought, "What, what can we write about?" And we thought, "Fuck it, there's the obvious one right here."

Mm-hmm.

Find a way to deal with it, you know? It's, but what, what's happened is [laughs] it's just, you know, it's over the course of that decade, numbers can only have got, have jumped more.

Seems like, feels like on the East Coast there's bigger sharks.

Why start there, and what have you learned so far from that intervention?

So, um, Jeremy, so, so, um, look, i- it is a little bit more than, um, 4 million rand across the, um, um, across the country.

Um, so you are right.

It is 15 million rand over three months.

What we have done, and, and it is, it's not, it's not regional or it's not, um, specific to certain routes or anything.

What we have done is we've looked at our customer base, and we've looked at certain behaviors, whether those are driving behaviors or whether they are payment behaviors.

We obviously know that, uh, this macro event is a massive shock, and we see it in the data where, where people have been trying, um, and then slowly but surely are starting to slip.

Mm.

Still a rope.

So I would like to, uh, so I've used my bonus action to stop raging, my action to cast Rope Trip, Trick.

I would like to use my movement to try and swing around, like basically jump diagonal off the bridge while holding onto the rope, and use that as a fixed point to swing around the enemies and get closer to Mal.

[laughs]

Uh, cool.

And then I am going to, uh, split the difference between the two minions.

Yeah, I'm just gonna go five feet onto the other side of them.

Since I have Khatuna's ability, I don't get attacks of opportunity if I attack someone.

Yes.

I think, I think you've kinda sold...

It takes place in Massachusetts, so this is another point for you.

Yeah.

That is what I'm planning to do.

I will say, the first time I ever interacted with you as a PA, you did say, "We hired this young man so that if someone tries to assassinate me, this kid will die instead."