I think it's from the bird...

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

There's two kinds of legged creatures out there.

There's digitigrades and there's plantigrades.

And digitigrades are like birds, dogs, dinosaurs, anything that have what everyone sometimes call like ostrich legs.

Everyone says, hey, you know, its knees are pointing backwards.

And as we pointed out previously in the podcast, actually not, because the idea of digitigrade means that you walk on your toes or your digits.

No, and they still haven't mentioned it.

all this in mind one thing that's surprising about this conversation is that you seem to be really focused on humanoids specifically right is there is there is that most of the bag here like is that are we are we mainly talking humanoids or they're not or will there not be like arms only or wheels yeah so

remember i pointed to this little bot over here which is a pillow bot the standard bot arm which is a standard industrial type arm so we're focused on physical intelligence which humanoids fits in that space and i'm constantly brought into these these arguments of like you know humanoids is is like a stupid form factor you know these others are going to win and i'm like look they're all going to win and they all have their special niche of of when they will work and when they will not work so this and this the special purpose versus general purpose argument it's a hot air argument because they're all going to win so Over the weekend, kind of getting prepared for this, I realized that there's some terms that kind of make it a little bit easier.

So we all know what a biome is from ecology.

So there's like usually like some sort of ecological niche where certain different biota form in there.

Well, I've got like the idea of a biome.

So the definition is like a distinct application environment whose demands, physical, operational, economic, dictate the design of a physical intelligence built to perform it.

Okay.

I think we've heard it's the hands, but even that, what you're describing, it's like there's

China is a very frequent offender, but how do they do this?

Well, the non-profit world generally has no rules.

It's the Wild West, actually.

You know, parties, candidates, they have a lot of restrictions on the amount of money they can take in, they're not allowed to take foreign money in, but non-profits don't work that way.

And by the way, non-profits can be hyper-political.

They can register voters for one political party.

Uh, that's not really supposed to be legal, but it's never enforced, and they can also win ballot initiatives.

What is the next SPLC, or what sort of groups are you watching to be the next, uh, group to be exposed for what SPLC was doing?

So can you give us an overview of what CRC is working on in addition to the wonderful, well-regarded Who Funds That? podcast?

[laughs] I certainly can.

We have all kinds of things either just out or, uh, soon coming out.

Uh, the very first one I would mention, I think, 'cause it's gonna be top of people's minds, is our elections report, uh, which is gonna deal with all kinds of, uh, uh, special interest meddling in, uh, these midterm elections.

So that would include, for instance, charities that are not supposed to do partisan work, in fact doing partisan voter registration and get out the vote work.

Um, but also many other exciting, uh, items, yeah, in the very messy, complicated system, uh, that our elections involve.

Another one is, uh, the Neville Singham network.

Mm-hmm.

So we have two tendons per figure, but one finger?

Well, I mean, we can kind of try counting the tendons up on the fingers themselves, or we can try to count them down here.

And it's a little bit tricky.

You have to look at different images.

But I think if you count across this way, especially if you could count at the bottom there, come along there, you should be able to count, I think, 12 right along here in the front.

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.

I'm seeing 11.

Do you have an idea?

And in terms of the other elements that you see as, like, the top three or four things that are uncertain, um, between now and November elections, what are those things that you think really could swing things in either direction?

Well, you know, obviously, uh, the war and the economy would be the biggest, uh, such issues.

And in both cases, uh, it's, you know, no one has a very good crystal ball for how either of those are gonna shake out between here, uh, and November.

Um, the other thing that's worth noting is that, uh, in that El-Sayed race that is still too close to call even this morning, you know, it's worth noting that the establishment candidate had 15 times as much money, uh, as the radical candidate, and yet it's neck and neck.

Why do you think they're able to perform so well when being far outspent?

Uh, well, you know, it's, it's worth noting too, of course, that, uh, in these races, uh, actual working class people, uh, people of, actual people of color, uh, are not the radicals, right? It is the well-off, uh, highly educated, um, white voters who tend to be the supporters for the radicals.

And so that's also an interesting, interesting thing to look at.

Um, the, uh, including of course the, the youth factor there.

And so what is it that you have done to prevent that?

Well, it's what a lot of researchers are working on.

And what we observed in nature is that a lot of creatures survive the freezing process.

Their bodies are frozen because they have a natural cryoprotectant.

And that's basically like antifreeze.

that prevents damaging crystals from forming in their bodies.

Like, for example, amphibians circulate glycerol compounds to help them survive freezing environments.

So what do you see as a risk for running a prize competition?

But how do they do this?

Well, the nonprofit world generally has no rules.

It's the Wild West, actually.

You know, parties, candidates, they have a lot of restrictions on the amount of money they can take in.

They're not allowed to take foreign money in.

But nonprofits don't work that way.

And by the way, nonprofits can be hyperpolitical.

But when the SPLC was exposed for raising money to stop extreme and then taking that and spending millions to fund extreme, I think it created that magic moment where America is like, wait a second, what's going on here? Are there some other examples that you're watching? What is the next SPLC or what sort of groups are you watching to be the next group to be exposed for what SPLC was doing? Yeah.

China is a very frequent offender, but how do they do this?

Well, the nonprofit world generally has no rules.

It's the Wild West, actually.

You know, parties, candidates, they have a lot of restrictions on the amount of money they can take in.

They're not allowed to take foreign money in.

But nonprofits don't work that way.

And by the way, nonprofits can be hyperpolitical.

But when the SPLC was exposed for raising money to stop extremism and then taking that and spending millions to fund extremism, I think it created that magic moment where America is like, wait a second, what's going on here? Are there some other examples that you're watching? What is the next SPLC or what sort of groups are you watching to be the next group to be exposed for what SPLC was doing?

Scott Walter, can we get

proof? Well, you know, this is the thing, right? Some of these guys are really squirrely.

Roy Stingham... is one of the top ones, and he has been a Maoist since he was a teenager, and despite the fact that he was able to make $750 million off of a business that he built and sold.

So obviously America did right by him, but he still hates America, and Maoists are not the most honest people.

So the New York Times, however, did a lot of good reporting on his international network, and they say it's hundreds of millions of dollars.

that he has poured through a vast network of groups, some of which, of course, are very happy to have riots.

incite riots in America, like the People's Forum there in New York City, which is notorious.

What else had you tell Congress, and what do you think the solutions are?

Can we get

proof? Well, you know, this is the thing, right? Some of these guys are really squirrely.

Roy Stingham is one of the top ones, and he has been a Maoist since he was a teenager, and despite the fact that he was able to make $750 million off of a business that he built and sold, right? So obviously America did right by him, but he still hates America, and Maoists are not the most honest, uh...

people so uh...

the new york times however did a lot of good reporting on his international network and they say it's hundreds of millions of dollars that he is poured through a a vast network of groups some of which of course are very happy to have riot you incite riot in america like the people's forum uh...

there in new york city which is notorious understood

What else had you tell Congress, and what do you think the solutions are?

Well, there's another, you know, the number two guy, I would say, who's a foreigner and bad in this, is a guy named Hans-Jurg Wies.

Talk to us about what you found and, and why Jason Smith's, uh, committee hearing was so explosive.

Well, the first thing to understand is that the left in America, right, they consider themselves an infrastructure.

They're interlinked.

They work together.

They h- you know, they, they aspire to be the Borg, and they often operate like a Borg.

So, uh, whenever something pops up, whether it's George Floyd's death, or Hamas's attack on Israel, or, uh, or the ICE, uh, enforcement of the law, they spring into action.

And what's important to understand is, it's bad enough that there are some Americans who are trying to finance this and organize this, but it's appalling when you find out that there are, are foreigners involved.

Who is it?

Talk to us about what you found and why Jason Smith's committee hearing was so explosive.

Well, the first thing to understand is that the left in America, they consider themselves an infrastructure.

They're interlinked.

They work together.

They aspire to be the Borg, and they often operate like a Borg.

So whenever something pops up, whether it's George Floyd's death or Hamas' attack on Israel or the ICE enforcement of the law, they spring into action.

And What's important to understand is it's bad enough that there are some Americans who are trying to finance this and organize this, but it's appalling when you find out that there are foreigners involved.

Who is it?

What can be done to maybe some of these sites that promote or they're fueling some of this violence? Is there anything that we can do there as well?

Well, you know, because America is such a decent country and we have a tradition of the rule of law, it's not super easy, right? It's hard to prove the conspiracy.

But the first step in this, the biggest, in a way, the biggest problem is, you know, back in the 60s, you had nihilistic violence like this too, but mayors didn't tolerate it, mayors of both parties.

in big cities would not tolerate this kind of violence on their streets.

But now, of course, Portland, Seattle, Chicago, and else Minneapolis, you don't have the local law enforcement shutting this down.

That's a huge part of the problem.

All right, so what do you anticipate going forward? Are any big changes happening that we can at least feel a little bit at ease that these foreign-funded protests won't get any bigger as we go into midterms now? Because we're heading into the midterms, and this is kind of when they seem to flare up the most.

Well, I do think there'll be some differences.

Can you please walk through Mr. Singham's web, the big web of nonprofits, and explain how the CCP is using our tax-exempt sector to push CCP propaganda?

Thank you for the question, Mr.

Chairman.

Uh, I, I have to say that some of this is speculative because s- uh, so little is known for certain, and, uh, like a good Maoist, Mr. Singham works hard to hide what he's doing, and our nonprofit sector makes that easy.

Uh, but there's been some very good reporting, especially from The New York Times, on this, which uses the number hundreds of millions of dollars Mr. Singham has spent to try to influence politics in America and other countries as well, uh, through a vast number of groups.

Um, all those groups do different things, but one thing they do is exactly what you say: they all push Communist China propaganda.

Uh, the, as The New York Times is perfectly clear, none of them are registered under FARA, as The Times also points out.

Talk to me, what was your testimony about foreign money coming into these not- not-for-profits for really political use?

Can you please walk through Mr. Singham's web, the big web of nonprofits and explain how the CCP is using our tax exempt sector to push CCP propaganda?

Thank you for the question, Mr.

Chairman.

I have to say that some of this is speculative because so little is known for certain, and like a good Maoist, Mr. Singham works hard to hide what he's doing, and our nonprofit sector makes that easy.

But there's been some very good reporting, especially from the New York Times on this, which uses the number hundreds of millions of dollars Mr. Singham has spent to try to influence politics in America and other countries as well through a vast number of groups.

All those groups do different things, but one thing they do is exactly what you say.

They all push communist China propaganda, as the New York Times is perfectly clear.

What was your testimony about foreign money coming into these not-for-profits for really political use?

Can you tell us a little bit about some of these connections?

Sure.

As a friend of mine puts it, the left has groups of groups and networks of networks, right? One of the reasons for all this complexity is, first, it makes it just hard to talk about, right? People's eyes start glazing over when you start mentioning so many groups and funders and pass-throughs and all.

But the other thing is to hide the money.

Right.

You can't you can't easily find the money trails when it gets this complex and group to group to group.

So that is definitely part of why they do it.

You talk about Hans-Jorg Weiss, I believe, from Switzerland, and different organizations and NGOs, the Tides Fishing Network, Neville Ray Singham and his network, Johann George, or Hans-Jorg, I don't know how to pronounce that, from Switzerland, right? And these guys, some of them are billionaires, and there's foreign cash coming into the U.S.,