Scott S. Greenberger

We may be moving into something bigger than just simply a wave, but we'll get to that in a second.

My conversation, my interview today is with an author named Scott Greenberger, who wrote about a founding father that has gotten sort of lost in history.

And I say lost.

He's had a few biographies written about it, so he's not completely lost.

But it's the the other father of the Constitution, you may think.

I think it's just James Madison that gets that title while Scott Greenberger makes a case for Gouverneur Morris, who probably wrote more of the Constitution than even Madison did.

But he was a bit written out of history, in part because the Virginians sort of dominated the first part.

And in fact, that's a part of our conversation at how much how much.

Jane E. Calvert, author of Penman of the Founding, a biography of John Dickinson.

Scott S. Greenberger, author of The Forsaken Founder, Gouverneur Morris, the unsung patriot who wrote the Constitution, stood up to slavery and survived the reign of terror, and Jesse Wegman, author of The Lost Founder, James Wilson, and the Forgotten Fight for a People's Constitution.

Good evening, everyone, and happy Constitution Day.

We're so glad that you're with us this evening.

His book is entitled The Forsaken Founder.

Gouverneur Morris, the unsung patriot who wrote the Constitution, stood up to slavery and survived the reign of terror by Scott S. Greenberger.

We're going to get into it with him and find out the deets.

He's a multi-book author, and he is the co-author of the New York Best...